Prison Officer.Org.UK

[falkor]

QUESTION 1

reply are you HMP ? if so at what age will you be able to retire and draw full pension? 60 or 65?

reply are you a private Prisons Employee? is so what are the PENSION ARRANGEMENTS? Do you retire at 60 and draw a full pension? or age 65?

QUESTION 2

do you see yourself working in uniform and supervising Landings/ Cat A/ Cat B/ Cat C prisoners at age 59, age 60, age 61?

if yes can a person of this age respond to incidents efficiently?

QUESTION 3

if you continue in HMP employment to age 59, age 60 or age 61 could an alternative position to "front line" duty be found? if so as what? stores? admin? what is the realistic prospect of this happening or is it every man for himself?

QUESTION 4

does the POA actively assist Prison Officers to come off the front line as they approach their late 50s? If so what help is given?

If not does ANYBODY help in this regard?

QUESTION 5

The pension you will draw at age 60 or 65 (depending when you joined), that will be added to your State Pension. The total of both - do you know what that adds up to NOW? - say for instance you had your time in tomorrow, what would it be? the actual figures would be useful to visualise whether the pensions provisions are "worth" looking forward to

QUESTION 6

All prison officers DO have pensions, right? I mean there are no prison officers either HMP or private, who are currently employed that can chugg along just getting their wages and all the time their pension is actually errrr ZILCH that would be pretty foolish but it can't happen can it?

[bloggs01]

1. Yes. 55.
2. No way, but a person of that age can respond to incidents efficiently - only a minority of incidents require a physical intervention and in those experience can count just as much as fitness.
3. No and nor should it be.
4. No. This would be age discrimination and the majority of older officers I know wouldn't want it. There are just as many younger officers who fight shy of the "front line". It has more to do with attitude than age.
5. Maximum service pension in all schemes is 50% of final salary, at the moment, although the Government is trying to change this to 50% of your wages averaged over your entire career. This would reduce it drastically. They are also trying to make pay increases non-consolodated which will effectively freeze your pension at 2008 rates even if you work for another 20 years.
6. At the moment every serving Prison Officer receives a non-contributary pension although the benefits are varied according to which scheme they are in. Some get maximum at 30 years some at 40 years. Retirement ages are 55, 60 or 65 depending on when you joined. The current pension for those joining today is 50% after 40 years and retiring at 65.
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[falkor]

thanks bloggs

anybody else give another view please?

[DUCKBILL]

What are your options if you join say age 50+?
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[bloggs01]

Bottom line is that you will only get a very small pension when you retire - you cannot serve enough years to build up a substantial one.
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