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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Prison Officer's Strike Reply with quote

Did any of you get a heads up that this was going to happen?

The first I heard of it was when I switched on the news this morning.

What are your thoughts?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was just going to post about this..

There's some interesting views on the sky news 'your views' section

Prison officer: On strike, on nights, at court today as witness to an assault. Fair recognition would appreciated.

MarkCurtis, Colchester
: Prison officers claiming that conditions are bad is nothing other than a joke. They must have known the job description before they applied. Its a career hazard to be amongst inmates. To have 150 inmates on methadone supplied by the government is better than having 150 inmates requiring it. If you dont like it, get another career!

Support Officer: Old style bullying is what is being used at liverpool by the senior staff enough is enough. I am a support officer -- prisons work only on the goodwill of the loyal commited staff.

Prison officer: I have been a serving prison officer for 18 years and for the last 10 years pay awards have been poor. The government has had enough warning.

Prisoner: I'm an inmate in Dorchester -- the strike is unfair on us inmates as we wont even get fed.

Prison officer: In twenty years as a serving prison officer, I have never known staff morale as low as it is now. Tthis is due to rising staff assaults, management bullying and pay cuts. We will gladly let Jack Straw through the picket line to pick some keys up and give reality a try. I am proud to be a striking prison officer.

Prison officer, John from York: More dangerous working conditions, being told to work extra hours for time off at a later date, which you can't get due to staff shortages. Enough is enough. This should have happened long ago.

Anon
: If prison officers don't like the pay or hard work then get a different job.

Prison officer: Most staff consider this action by the POA long overdue. We work for an employer who is happy for its staff to work in increasingly dangerous conditions where we are assaulted, spat at, have excrement and urine thrown at us, then reward us with year upon year below inflation pay awards.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i appologise in advance for my comments.....

but this is to Mark Curtis, Colchester. who the F**k do you think you are have you ever stepped in a prison and witnessed this first hand i suggest by your comment the answer is no. so go back to your nice little air conditioned office in your little comfort zone where you feel safe and secure and leave us to do the real work!!!

and anon as for your pay and hard work comment if you havent got the balls to put your name to the comment then i suggest you STFU!!!!

i appologise if i have offended anyone with my comments but i wonder sometimes where the media find these muppets to interview, my guess is the dole queue. why do people feel the need to put service personnel down when we strike for good reasons they did the same to the fire service when they took strike action but i bet they would be the first people they rang if there house went up. i really wish the idiots good come and see things from our point of view i would gladly read there comments then!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad I am very sad that things have come to this its now 16.30hrs and the POA are still refusing to allow staff back to work, Bristol returned but others are still out.
The POA say they care about the staff my personal view is dream on its all just for politics.
My Family have lost enough over the years and had hoped that the posting we had that bought us to our present prison would not be our last but since we moved here we have had problem after problem, Are the POA going to pay everyone the days pay lost some of us can not afford to lose it we have lost enough already. On speaking to my Two family members they are still being denied the chance to return to work not by the Prison Service but by the local union, where were they when we lost our child, when one of the others had a tumour removed when we asked for compassionate assistance to move due to a knife attack on two family members one serving one ex prison staff.
The pressure has been hard but we have each other we had to move home due to the attack, we could not get a move so stuck at the same prison. COME on POA if your so much for your staff answer that.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HMP_wannabe wrote:
i appologise in advance for my comments.....


And so you should.

The diatribe that you write shows how little you understand the situation - if anyone should be in the dole queue it should be you.

The bottom line is that the strike is illegal - do you understand what that means? In a nutshell it means you can't do it. You risk the union's assts being seized, officers being sent to jail and fined.

The POA entered into JIRPA - you were all ballotted on the no strike agreement and you all agreed to it. So why strike? May be you trhink that the law doesn't apply to you - well you're in for a shock, the High Court today has shown you that it does.

You have an independent pay review body, you've accepted their pay awards in the past when it suited you, the Prison Service have had to pay them even when they couldnt really afford them. Now you don't like the pay award you want to throw the dolly out of the pram - well you can't.

The only thing you will achieve here is a reinstatement of the legislation banning you from taking strike action - I've already writen to the SoS asking him to considr this - and its what you all deserve after today's disgraceful events.

If you don't like the way the Prison Service is being run then, to take a page out of your own book, f*** off and get a job somewhere else - you work for the prison service, you are not the managers of it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The bottom line is that the strike is illegal - do you understand what that means? In a nutshell it means you can't do it. You risk the union's assts being seized, officers being sent to jail and fined.



If you don't like the way the Prison Service is being run then, to take a page out of your own book, f*** off and get a job somewhere else - you work for the prison service, you are not the managers of it.



For your first answer to this is what makes me laugh at just how daft you are.. OFFICERS BEING SENT TO JAIL i can just see that in the news 27,000 prison officers sent to prison for going on STRIKE

Think about it buddy that will never happen.. Or fined for that matter POA going to court maybe yes. Prison officers do a very good job keeping in custody those commited by the courts 2.5% pay rise is not very good. If you was a prison officer you would understand abit more.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to worry. I'm sure everybody realised it was you
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eggman wrote:
No need to worry. I'm sure everybody realised it was you


Was it that obvious!

The facts remains you've scored a huge own goal today - how could the POA have been so stupid? You can't beat the system - and that applies just as much to you as it does to those in your care.

Let's hope you learn the lesson.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The bottom line is that the strike is illegal - do you understand what that means? In a nutshell it means you can't do it. You risk the union's assts being seized, officers being sent to jail and fined.



If you don't like the way the Prison Service is being run then, to take a page out of your own book, f*** off and get a job somewhere else - you work for the prison service, you are not the managers of it.



For your first answer to this is what makes me laugh at just how daft you are.. OFFICERS BEING SENT TO JAIL i can just see that in the news 27,000 prison officers sent to prison for going on STRIKE

Think about it buddy that will never happen.. Or fined for that matter POA going to court maybe yes. Prison officers do a very good job keeping in custody those commited by the courts 2.5% pay rise is not very good. If you was a prison officer you would understand abit more.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to work this morning and yes I stayed outside on strike.

No one in prison service knew there would be strike action this morning as the POA officials only found out at 0530.

We were informed that the NEC (National Executive Committee) had taken the decision to stage a 24 hour withdrawal of labour and asked for our support. Being a union member I was not about ignore a call for support such as this.

I stand by the decision as I believe it has to make the government look not just at officers pay but also the budgets that prisons are forced to work on and the worsening conditions for both officers and inmates alike.

I love my job and believe I am worth much more than the £18,908 that I am paid a year but I accept that is my wage. However when an independent pay review recommendation is ignored by this government something has to be done. The NEC took that decision today.

Let's hope it acheives some good.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

".....For your first answer to this is what makes me laugh at just how daft you are.."

Really?

Well let's look at the facts should we. Today prison officers were served with an injunction by the High Court. That injunction reads that if you ignore it the assets of the union could be seized and officers imprisoned - I didn't threaten that, the Judge who signed the Order did.

If you don't believe that would happen, just go out on strike again tomorrow; go on I dare you! Surely you arent even that thick? Though I could be wrong!

Secondly, if 'daft' is being on 85,000 a year, with homes in the UK, Gran Canaria and Thailand, not to mention my own helicopter which I'm qualified to fly - then yes, I'm (happily) daft - and I bet you wish you were too!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The diatribe that you write shows how little you understand the situation - if anyone should be in the dole queue it should be you.


dude....i think it is u that has problems understanding i am not condoning the strike i am private and we have no strike action built into our partnership agreement. what i have problems with is the people interviewed by the media that talk shit. when they have no idea what we do and what its like. people shouldnt pass comment about thinks they dont know about including you. so why not get some balls and stop hiding behind a guest tag!!!

i stand by my previous post cos pay and conditions are tough and not always they where when we signed up, but i have never agreed with the strike action!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Secondly, if 'daft' is being on 85,000 a year, with homes in the UK, Gran Canaria and Thailand, not to mention my own helicopter which I'm qualified to fly - then yes, I'm (happily) daft - and I bet you wish you were too!


...you forgot to mention that you are also extremely modest!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please bear in mind that prisonsorguk was banned from this forum at 10pm on 29 Aug 2007

he is now not in a position to reply to you or take further part in discussions
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, coz he was a cock Smile




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